"No, I don't thank you for the fish at all" (notindetroit)
08/23/2014 at 16:23 • Filed to: None
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"No, I don't thank you for the fish at all" (notindetroit)
08/23/2014 at 16:23 • Filed to: None | 0
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But to Tyler and Micheal specifically since they're more or less the core of Foxtrot Alpha and seem to have a pretty good grasp of the ISIS/Middle East situation (or as well as anyone)
I just want to know !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! , want to join an active terrorist group who is currently murdering thousands of civilians, the vast majority of which are Muslims themselves, and a very large chunk of those victims being girls their own age.
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Honestly, it's upsetting enough not make me want to raise a teenage girl in a world like this - or maybe better to not reproduce at all.
Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
> No, I don't thank you for the fish at all
08/23/2014 at 16:27 |
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It's a long standing French tradition to want to surrender and join the other side.
Diesel
> No, I don't thank you for the fish at all
08/23/2014 at 16:32 |
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Saying they are French girls and calling them Western could be misleading. My guess is that they are Muslim and want to support their Religion.
Shady Balkan Subject, Drives an Alfa
> Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
08/23/2014 at 16:36 |
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Wrong reply, actually wanted to tell you: 'hahahahaahhah, French joke'.
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Shady Balkan Subject, Drives an Alfa
> No, I don't thank you for the fish at all
08/23/2014 at 16:37 |
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Well you also have this her in Europe, pro ISIS demonstrations:
http://www.newsweek.com/pro-isis-demon…
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d933b2…
I think people supporting those or Hamas are just not well in their heads. Or have become too far Muslims and think this is the right way. I link this mentality to the one of the Catholic church some centuries ago, kill everyone that don't belive what we do, even if it is Christian.
norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback
> Diesel
08/23/2014 at 16:38 |
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Well it depends on what your description of "Western" is. For most it's Europe and the Americas whilst Asia is the East. I'm sure you already knew that, but that might be why.
Flavien Vidal
> No, I don't thank you for the fish at all
08/23/2014 at 16:40 |
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Why?? A bit of a ridiculous question... Why did Unabomber attack people who helped technological advances? Why did Timothy McVeigh blow up half of Oklahoma city? Why some american people enjoy going with tons of weapons into schools and theaters to kill children??
There are no real answers to that... They are insane, that's all. Whether it's because of religion, society or both combined... The executioner of James Foley most likely grew up in London's suburbs.
The day when religions will stop existing, then the world will be a much better place... Until then, be prepared to deal with stuff like this for a LONG time.
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Flavien Vidal
> Shady Balkan Subject, Drives an Alfa
08/23/2014 at 16:44 |
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Yes, they most likely have something wrong in their heads... But people supporting the bombing of Gaza and Israel's actions are not better ("Hey everyone! Why not close Gaza to journalists so that we can send burning Magnesium on civilian populations??")
EDIT: my bad, white phosphorate lol
PatBateman
> norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback
08/23/2014 at 16:46 |
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In the geopolitical realm, "The West" is a term for Europe and North America. It has less to do with geography and more to do with NATO/UN "teams".
oldirtybootz
> No, I don't thank you for the fish at all
08/23/2014 at 16:47 |
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In to ask if anyone has any good unbiased reading on the Gaza conflict. For some reason it's a topic that bothets me and I'm neither Jewish nor Palistinian, nor am I religious at all for that matter.
BATC42
> No, I don't thank you for the fish at all
08/23/2014 at 16:48 |
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As you said they are teenagers, they are at an age where they are trying to define themselves. Add to that the fact that we live in an era of hyper-mediatisation.
Everything they read in the nexspapers or see in the news is about war, and the western countries not doing anything. I believe they try to go there to do something we (as a whole) don't do. And I think the number of people wanted to join jihad increased with the conflict in Syria.
Mash all the above with the fact that they are easily influenced on people, and you got the perfect recipe to recruit teenagers.
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norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback
> PatBateman
08/23/2014 at 16:48 |
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Yeah, that's what I meant I just for got the NATO/UN, but that's most of the world anyway so I didn't think it was necessary,
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Diesel
> norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback
08/23/2014 at 16:48 |
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I'm talking about their religion overriding the 'western' label. But, that's just my opinion.
Rainbow
> Diesel
08/23/2014 at 16:49 |
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If they want to support Islam, they wouldn't be joining a terrorist group.
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PatBateman
> No, I don't thank you for the fish at all
08/23/2014 at 16:51 |
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My personal outlook on the situation is this: Young people can be easily influenced by causes and individuals that can rationalize well. Unfortunately, much of what is going on in the Middle East has more to do with money/power than religion/noble causes, but the leaders can spin it to seem like it's the opposite.
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PatBateman
> norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback
08/23/2014 at 16:53 |
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I meant that for that ignorant ass Diesel that knows nothing about these things.
/s
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Diesel
> Rainbow
08/23/2014 at 16:54 |
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Teenagers aren't known for making wise decisions.
V8soundRIOT- Now Has a V8
> oldirtybootz
08/23/2014 at 16:54 |
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From what I understand, Israel says that Gaza is their land for some religious reason. While Hamas believes that it is their land and they are fighting over the land, I think of it as the violent version of the dispute between Japan and China disputed islands. It's probably a lot more complicated than from what I understand.
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oldirtybootz
> V8soundRIOT- Now Has a V8
08/23/2014 at 17:03 |
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That's my basic grasp on it, and that Israel has the full backing of the US and a far more advanced fighting force than Hamas.
I presume both sides believe it is their holy land.
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norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback
> oldirtybootz
08/23/2014 at 17:05 |
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I've also heard that Hama/Gaza attacked Israel first and Israel was just retaliating. I'm not to sure about whats happening because you know how the media is.
jariten1781
> oldirtybootz
08/23/2014 at 17:29 |
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Read 'A Peace to End All Peace' by David Fromkin. It covers the history of that part of the world from the fall of the Ottoman Empire to the modern conflicts. It's a bit of a tome, but it's more comprehensive and less biased than anything I've found on the internet.
If you've read that you know more than 99.9% of people including the media and the guys that are out there killing each other today (with the exception of high level government ministers)
yamahog
> oldirtybootz
08/23/2014 at 17:29 |
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Everything's biased on this... best chance is to read it all and sort it out on your own.
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yamahog
> No, I don't thank you for the fish at all
08/23/2014 at 17:31 |
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Honestly, it's upsetting enough not make me want to raise a teenage girl in a world like this - or maybe better to not reproduce at all.
Join the club.
Michael Ballaban
> No, I don't thank you for the fish at all
12/16/2014 at 16:20 |
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I don't know. I know this is incredibly late and terribly inaccurate, but I really don't know what would motivate a teenager in Europe to join ISIS. But teens throughout history have found a myriad of things to be disaffected with, so there's that.
Sorry about that.